Here Comes The Sun: October 2008

The group of 2nd A has worked on this topic. Here you find some of the ideas that have come out in class. Please, write a comment with your opinion. Remember that we are working for and against points of view, so give arguments supporting one of the sides.

- It is difficult to relate these topics among them, but they were our
worries.
- Nowadays poverty is growing up. Due to famine in third world. Since in
their countries they haven’t got anything, they have to migrate to our
country.
- In the first world, we have another kind of problems: drugs and alcohol.
This leads to sex without protection.
- People don’t worry too much about environment since they only think about
partying and having fun.
- The consumption of drugs have raised among young people. Every day we can
achieve it more and more easily.
- Poverty sometimes leads to drugs and alcohol business. And the other way
round. That would lead to stealing as well.
- Drugs can be sometimes related to eating disorders. There are drugs that
make you eat a lot or nothing. Depression
- People are not very conscious. They think they control what they take, and
then they become dependant.
- They are highly addictive and people don’t realise till it is too late.
- Drugs affect differently to people. They change personality, they become
violent; others take it to become more outgoing.
- Drugs and alcohol make people to split up from their family.
- People start younger to have relationships. You have a lot of information,
but in the moment, you don’t think about it. You sometimes do not know who
you are having sex with. There are more undesired pregnancies, venereal
diseases and aids.
- When you are under age, it is very difficult to keep your life.
- It is not bad if they come, they work in the jobs we don’t want to, but they
have a lot of help from the government that we don’t have. They have to
respect our culture.
- They will have to learn our language.

DISCUSSION 3: USA ELECTIONS

The group of 2nd B has worked on this topic. Here you find some of the ideas that have come out in class. Please, write a comment with your opinion. Remember that we are working for and against points of view, so give arguments supporting one of the sides.

- McCain is republican and Obama, democrat.
- Who will win the elections?
- We think that it will be Obama.
- Vice-presidents: Sarah Palin and Joe Biden.
- Hillary Clinton should have been elected as vicepresident.
- They may be equal in the elections though Obama will win.
- Obama’s race can make a difference in electors. It depends on society, in
the sense that people can see it as an advantage or a disadvantage.
- A president with cancer can be a problem if his health is not good. But this
risk is true for Obama as well (terrorist attacks, for instance)
- All the people that have tried to change the point of view have been killed
– john f. kennedy, martin Luther King- .
- We think that someone will try to kill Obama.
- People have criticised the fact that Palin’s seventeen-year-old daughter is
pregnant.
- Attacks are very personal throughout the campaign.
- Candidates are apart from the current politics, and people vote the person,
not the political party.
- Obama hasn’t talked about death penalty, because it will make him to lose
votes, but it would be nice to hear it.
- He has promised to follow the Kyoto treat and to retire Irak troops, and
have conversations with Cuban government. Support to Israel will not be so
high against Palestine (theory)
- Immigrants’ issue: Obama will not be so hard on them.
- Crisis: intervention of government is good, at least for the moment being.
- Crisis will damage McCain because his party supports Bush decisions.
- Obama will include Zapatero in his visits to other prime ministers, so that
would help to improve US-Spain relationships.
- Obama should implement national health, as we have and regulate guns in
a better way.

Friday 10 October 2008

DISCUSSION 2: PARTYING FOR YOUNG PEOPLE

The group of 2nd C has worked on this topic. Here you find some of the ideas that have come out in class. Please, write a comment with your opinion. Remember that we are working for and against points of view, so give arguments supporting one of the sides.

- Driving when partying: ad: if you drink, do not drive.

- Young people drink and smoke and take drugs

- People don’t think about drugs effect. Irresponsibility.

- Some people have sex without taking protection

- Young people go out at night and arrive home early in the morning.
o Sometimes not
oBreakfast and go to sleep

-There are other duties that keep people away from partying

-Most young people never drink water or fizzy drinks, only spirits.
oTickets are too expensive just to buy non-alcohol drinks
oDiscos use bad quality drinks (garrafon)

- Under age people are allowed to clubs and they are sold alcohol.

- Attitude of young people: they pretend to be older than they really are

- The age to start going out is going down; from 12 onwards

- Girls have the advantage to go in for free in clubs

- Going out is expensive (at night it is more expensive, it depends on the place). Between 20 and 100 euros (very extraordinary weekend: birthdays, new year’s eve…)

- You find the same everywhere you go
o Disagree…depending on the place
o Everything is packed, music quite similar,
o People may be different, types, clothes

DISCUSSION 1: YOUNG PEOPLE LIFESTYLE

The group of 2nd D has worked on this topic. Here you find some of the ideas that have come out in class. Please, write a comment with your opinion. Remember that we are working for and against points of view, so give arguments supporting one of the sides.

- There are different styles in young people: clothes, music, what they do at the weekends, hair styles, vocabulary. Relationships, Thoughts, hobbies

- Different kind of people: Emo, snobs, heavies, posh, skaters, rappers, nerds, punks, grunge, freakies, hippies, rocker, squatters, skins
Looking for a translation of ‘garrulo’, ‘quillo’, ‘rechulón’ (different

concepts?)

- Leisure: snowboarding, sleeping, practice sports, chat mssnger, going out with friends, drawing, studying, travel, playing console games, go clubbing, “botellón”, concerts, watch tv, go shopping, dancing, working, play instrument, go to the gym, listen to music, reading book

- Criticism to their lifestyle: no money, waste of time, no time enough, drugs, alcohol, vulnerable to consume, depressive people, pessimistic, we complain about everything, do not study enough, fights and a lot of violence, possessive, envy, selfish, nonconformist, changeable, capricious, waste of money, sometimes we are not conscious at all of what we are doing., we punish our body through diet.

- Positive Aspects: more variety, a lot of teenagers go away from their parents’nest with a lot of effort, we look for money working, , we want to be free, without worries

- Some people have hobbies like sports, playiing music...healthy hobbies, we have a lot of information, young people are highly informed.

Thursday 9 October 2008